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Interior Natural Desert Reclamation and
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Impressive, insightful, informative but
over-reaching, July 29, 2011
This is an important work,
which has undoubtedly influenced many in today's green
movements. The concept of restitutive justice and nature as
a client has informed activists and lawmakers for decades.
I saw it as over-reaching in its fundamental view, in much
the same way that Christian missionaries have often
historically over-reached when trying to save "savages". Man
is a "natural" competitor, similar to any-other plant,
animal or even bacteria, in that we all want our way. And if
allowed to proliferate any life form will dominate to that
point where further domination no longer serves that
organism. Species prosper and dominate while their
particular set of unique characteristics are well suited to
their environments. This is for example why the dinosaurs no
longer roam.
Recent history has in my view demonstrated that ham-fisted
tinkering with self sustaining ecosystems is perilous in the
short term, because of un-intended consequences. However, in
the long term nature re-defines itself around the new
condition, for example the Salton Sea in California.
Of course we want to minimize obvious damage to ecosystems,
but lets not get ahead of ourselves, and imagine that we
understand any more than a fraction of a fraction of nature
and natural systems.
We tend to cherish today, and the recent past as
representing the good, but do we really believe that, or
have any supportive evidence. I think respect for evolution
is as important as respect for nature, and we must embrace
the changes that expanding populations bring.
Consider this, even though it is hard to see, human
evolution is rapidly progressing to the point that robots
will within the next 20-30 years have legal person hood,
rights, and privileges. Will they be forced to limit their
development because humans can no longer compete?
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An apocalyptic tale of hydrological folly,
July 27, 2011
This is a well written
examination of many of the past, present, and looming
problems of world hydrology. I listened to the audio
version, and it was as captivating, to a geek like me, as
Tolstoy is to a Russian historian. I learned a lot about the
regional struggles for clean water, that as a student of
world hydrology, I was only casually familiar. It left me
with a tragic view of human development, especially
geographic concentration in cites, and agricultural policies
that are out of sync with nature.
As with many status-quo zealots, such as the climate change
lobbyists, the author regards the hydrological and weather
related evolution of the planet as a fatalistic spiral, as
opposed to a call for adaptation. While water pollution,
especially with toxic chemicals, with extremely long half
lives, is a clear injustice to the planet, the majority of
salt and organic pollution is only a problem due to
densities of animal populations (human and livestock). He
also clearly views atmospheric water as a lost rather than a
nascent resource. As the research director of the INdRA
project, a planetary terra-forming scheme, i view the
authors treatment, of the challenges of world hydrology, as
alarmist as opposed to helpful.
In my view, these hydrology challenges are the fruit of the
poisonous tree of industrial revolution styled human
concentrations. The solutions are smaller communities, local
agriculture of native species, shifts away animal proteins,
and de-desertification with the goal of balanced world
hydrology. Our planet will not stop evolving to suit our
parochial desires, we must both, the panet and life, adapt.
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"Regaining lost land is too expensive. Prevention is the only solution
for countries that do not have enough resources," said Hama Araba Diallo
Mr.Diallo's statement begs
the question is the restoration of deserts too expensive for man to
attempt. Studies show that deserts cost the world economy in
2010 over $42 Billion in lost productivity. With the
continued growth of deserts and droughts this figure will continue to
increase. INdRA estimates that 20-35,000 miles of
evaporation/updraft channels, at an average cost of $1 million per mile,
or a total cost of $20-35 billion, can begin the process of converting
even historical deserts into productive areas.
Of course costs will vary according to the region and its
desertification challenges.
In horse latitudes areas bordering tropical zones,
and therefore suffering from hot high pressure air masses and high winds
which move moisture into the ITCZ, the solution will be longer term than
rain shadow desert regions.
Evaporation stimulation and management over the
long term will facilitate a shifting of the horse latitudes higher and
higher into areas where reduced direct solar radiation have typically
engendered colder conditions, such as Argentina and Canada. Our
stimulations show that every decade of a fully operational INdRA program
would move the range of the ITCZ by one degree of latitude.
This process would continue for 10 or 15 decades, and would result in
near tropical hydrology in 35-40 latitudes.
Seawater could be transported an average of 400
miles to generate salt marshes in the heart of desert regions.
The first 100-200 miles of transport would be in pipes that would
eventually open to evaporation/updraft channels which terminate in salt
marshes. Each channel could effectively deliver millions of acre feet of
fresh water to cloud level each year.
During the first few years due to prevailing wind,
sub-optimum lapse rates and heat conditions we estimate that 90-95% of
this water would be blown back to the ITCZ. The moisture that
remains in the region would stimulate modest increases in
rainfall, resulting in an equally slight increase in regional hydrology.
In subsequent years a gradual increase in the regions hydrology would
become the new norm and nature would incorporate these changes slowly.
Tropical species of weeds and wildlife would slowly expand in these
regions, Within 1 or 2 decades the nature of farming in the region
would also begin to shift. Energy utilization would shift
from water momentum to other uses.
Rain shadow deserts will require relatively more
expensive but faster solutions. Seawater could be delivered to
these regions which are generally upgrade, either through pipelines
tunneled through mountain ranges, or pumped up to sufficiently high
elevations to feed runoff channels. In many cases existing
abandoned mines, and other pre-existing structures can be modified to
form seawater channels through mountains. Seawater sources could
be augmented by giant fog catchers at high elevations on the wet side of
the mountains, which can be directed to enhance transported seawater.
These channels would be permanent structures, but within a decade the
hydrology of these regions would be changed dramatically.
Within 2 decades a widespread implementation of
INdRA programs would add $300-400 billion to world productivity by
amelioration of deserts and arid conditions. These savings are
then combined with the multiple trillion dollars savings, that INdRA
facilitated increases in weather control and predictability through
reduced drought, wind speed, and dangerous storm conditions.
Demonstrate that INdRA is both a natural eco-friendly, and extremely
cost effective solutions to world hydrology.
We say no Mr.Diallo, desert restoration is not too
expensive to do, desert restoration is too valuable not to do.
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